But that time when my ex-husband he left, that morning, my son was born 7:30 in the morning. Two of my sons, one was born just here out past Old Camp, and the other was born over that way. See when I was pregnant with my first daughter, like, people, before the ambulance got here, it arrived here, we used to sit out bush with the old people, and I thought my daughter was going to be born out that way, but never. When I got on the ambulance about one o'clock in the morning, and then all the way up going up, but she was born in hospital. But I didn't know. I thought I was a bit all right, but I didn't know anything about it because it was my first time. Sometimes people pass out. But then my other son been born when we was at New camp, in that house with them three rooms. We just swept away the dirt and made a little place for him right by the fire then for him to sleep to keep him warm.